APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY - UPDATED INFO ON WHAT IS DEPOSITED & WHERE

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APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY - UPDATED INFO ON WHAT IS DEPOSITED & WHERE

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:28 pm

Election year pandering for a third term...

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Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is scheduled to be on Long Island Tuesday to announce the largest expansion of the state’s artificial reef program with the addition of a mountain of material from the demolished Tappan Zee Bridge and decommissioned vessels to be submerged in waters around Long Island.


NEWSDAY (4.16.18) Gov. Cuomo to announce expansion of artificial reefs off LI Nearly 50,000 cubic yards of material from the demolished Tappan Zee Bridge as well as decommissioned vessels are to be submerged in waters around Long Island.


But later in the article....

But not everyone was happy.

“They’re just trying to hide their garbage for free, and patronize New York fishing interests while doing it,” said Daniel Rodgers, a Southampton lawyer who is director of New York Fish, an advocacy group that is pushing the governor to more aggressively fight the state’s low share of the fluke fishery and to reform its permitting system.
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Re: APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:43 pm

A few points of interest on what is planned to be deposited around Long Island on the existing A.R. reef footprints...

Beginning in May, state agencies will start to deploy:

- 33 barges of Tappan Zee Bridge recycled materials and

- 30 vessels that have been cleaned of all contaminants.


A total of:

- 43,200 cubic yards of recycled Tappan Zee Bridge material,

- 338 cubic yards of steel pipe from DOT, and

- 5,900 cubic yards of jetty rock

Will be submerged and added to six reef sites as part of the first phase of this initiative. The six artificial reefs that will be developed include:



Rockaway Reef

One barge of Tappan Zee Bridge material will be deployed in July and August to expand the artificial reef.

The 413-acre reef is located 1.6 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 32-40 feet.


Hempstead Reef

Twelve barges of Tappan Zee Bridge material and 11 canal vessels will be deployed in July and August to expand the artificial reef.

The 744-acre reef is located 3.3 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 50-72 feet.


Fire Island Reef

Ten barges of Tappan Zee Bridge material, 11 canal vessels, one barge of steel and four barges of jetty rock will be deployed to expand the artificial reef between June 26-28.

The 744-acre reef is located 2 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 62-73 feet.


Moriches Reef

Two barges of Tappan Zee Bridge material and two canal vessels will be deployed in July and August to expand the artificial reef.

The 14-acre reef is located 2.4 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 70-75 feet.


Shinnecock Reef

One barge of the Tappan Zee Bridge material, one barge of steel pipes and two canal vessels will be deployed to expand the artificial reef beginning Wednesday, May 2.

The 35-acre reef is located 2 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 79-84 feet.


Smithtown Reef

Three canal vessels and one barge of steel will be deployed to expand the artificial reef between June 8-15.

The 3-acre reef is located 1.6 nautical miles from shore with a depth of 38-40 feet.
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VIDEO: Governor Cuomo Makes An Announcement at Sunken Meadow State Park

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“Is there a Bridge Heaven?” Cuomo mused at a press conference in Kings Park on Tuesday. “Bridge heaven is you spend all your life above the water serving people and then you go to bridge heaven is you go below the water.”

The plan is expected to save money, because it would be more costly to send the bridge to landfills and scrap yards, a rep from Cuomo’s office said


NY POST: Remains of old Tappan Zee Bridge will be made into reef By Shari Logan and Max Jaeger April 17, 2018

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Re: APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY - UPDATED INFO ON WHAT IS DEPOSITED & WHERE

Postby R SONS » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:49 am

looking forward to this, one barge is better than none , hope they dump on the deep side
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Re: APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY - UPDATED INFO ON WHAT IS DEPOSITED & WHERE

Postby Paul H / Emily S » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:22 am

All good , but, how about something a little deeper for NY ? A guess a new reef site is out of the question ?
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Re: APRIL 16, 2018 - WHAT TO EXPECT TOMORROW AT SUNKEN MEADOW: GOVERNOR CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE ARTIFICIAL REEF EXPANSION IN NY - UPDATED INFO ON WHAT IS DEPOSITED & WHERE

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:44 am

WED. APRIL 18th AFTERMATH UPDATE


it seems the NYS DEC A.R. coordinator as I was told this morning, will be very busy in arranging the tug and barge operations as it seems that the planned 1st deployment will be at the Shinnecock Reef at the start of May.

Next is the issue on why dump on existing reefs...

Simply put, this was the fastest approach for getting the material to be dumped. Creating new A.R.'s is both a complex and then very time consuming project to put together in that any new A.R. requires a number of protocols to be completed in first officially designating and then acquiring the permit. This means clearing a number of regulatory and environmental hurdles on both the state and federal level....and we have seen how well this has played out in NYS in just getting anything done over the past decade.

The debris.... it is non-toxic nor is it just 'garbage' as a few people have stated on socialized media and in the press. I pointed this out in one of my responses to the peanut gallery there...


No...the debris are "NOT toxic" as they are the remnants from past bridge construction projects around the state. The vessels that NYS somehow acquired have had their holds either cleaned or removed before being "re-purposed" for artificial reef building.

It is truly amazing when I read someone writing about toxic material being dumped into the ocean when we had a number of shipwrecks sunk during WWI off of Nantucket (U-53 sinking six large ships) and off New Jersey (Black Sunday) or WWII with the Nazi U-Boats sinking some of the largest ships that traveled off our coast at that time...and the bones of these wrecks are still the most bountiful areas for concentrated fish production off our shores.

We also have had a many decade’s long dredging spoils and dump project right here in the NY-NJ BIGHT with the MUD BUOY area being approved for the P.A. to dump both bedrock and the associated mud from the Arthur Kills and Newark Bay in designated zones offshore of the Highlands. Have you ever heard of fishermen fishing on the 'Mud' or 'New Bottom' or fishing along Scotland and the Fish Buoy area...or seen the rock bottom in that area?

This has been approved by our lovely EPA for the dumping of what is pretty nasty muck and some of the deadliest chemicals produced by man (hello DIOXIN) that has been taken out of the Arthur Kills...yet it is now part of some extremely productive fishing bottom that originally came out of the open sewer which the A.K. had/has been for way over a century.

Let me ask you...do you know how much fishing is done in the areas I mentioned known as the Mud or New Bottom? I would recommend to not contrast the brain-fart we had here from a few years ago by a few local progressive wing-nut politicians here in the 'County of the Kings' with the 5 cents per bag shakedown, with what is going on with the planned depositing of what was prior bridge and roadway debris. I would worry more about all the runoff from yesterday’s rainstorm dumping more deadly chemicals into our nearshore waters than all the combined 'proposed' A.R. reef building.....

WORKBOAT - NY-NJ HARBOR DREDGING & RESULTING SPOILS DUMPING


I completely understand the how few are happy about the way this A.R. release was made, especially considering that NOTHING was officially stated about the recreational Black Sea Bass regulatory issue.

As I have constantly harped on and my comments can be found on this website over the last two years: "The issue should of have been fixed right after the latest BSB Benchmark was completed. Start with a clean sheet of paper as the stock is more than rebuilt which will allow the setting of a reasonably possession, season and size limit. It was the Waterloo moment for the MAFMC, and they have lost the trust of the fishing public in what transpired by setting such a low RHL which has created this regulatory crisis..."
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