FEB 21, 2018 - Attention Fishermen and Other Mariners: Survey Activities for the Empire Wind Offshore Lease, New York Bight - Scheduled March – July 2018

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Re: FEB 21, 2018 - Attention Fishermen and Other Mariners: Survey Activities for the Empire Wind Offshore Lease, New York Bight - Scheduled March – July 2018

Postby LiFortier26 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:27 pm

Us saying no won't mean or do a darn thing. I know it's still "up for debate," but he deal is done and these things are going up. When your friends and former co-workers are on the team that help write up the contracts between the "vendors" and utility companies and they are saying that the ink is basically dry, I think it's a done deal. After all it means not only getting a heavy federal and state subsidy, but the authority to exceed rate raises as well, you're going to be inclined to make sure this project goes forward.

The best we can hope for is being allowed to fish in that area. But from what I gather, we're supposed to be told that we will be allowed, until the windmills are up and then a decision will be made where it will be designated a MARSEC area and we will then be excluded.

Commercial fisherman don't matter much.

Recreational don't matter at all !

They're already in the process of performing updated surveys and expect to put the first of these mills up in 2022/3. Their biggest issue right now is finding the right 'tie in" point, because of a conflict with the Neptune cable.
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Re: FEB 21, 2018 - Attention Fishermen and Other Mariners: Survey Activities for the Empire Wind Offshore Lease, New York Bight - Scheduled March – July 2018

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:27 pm

Note the year of this article and who was in office at that time, one Barry Soetoro...and a company which was noted as "One of Obama's Biggest Donors Now His 'Economics Adviser'" and you can understand the "pay for play" with your tax dollars.

General Electric — the biggest wind-turbine maker in North America — has a seat on AWEA’s (American Wind Energy Association) board. It has received $1.6 billion in local, state, and federal subsidies and $159 billion in federal loans and loan guarantees. (It’s worth noting that General Electric got into the wind business in 2002 after it bought Enron Wind, a company that helped pioneer the art of renewable-energy rent-seeking.)

NATIONAL REVIEW: Wind-Energy Sector Gets $176 Billion Worth of Crony Capitalism By Robert Bryce June 6, 2016

Now it's Andy-boy and this story in the NY POST a few weeks ago:

It will also be enormously expensive. According to the latest data from the Energy Information Administration, by 2022 producing a megawatt hour of electricity from offshore wind will cost a whopping $145.90.

Offshore wind promoters claim costs are declining. Maybe so. But according to the New York Independent System Operator, the average cost of wholesale electricity in the state last year was $36.56. Thus, Cuomo’s presidential ambitions will require New York consumers to pay roughly four times as much for offshore electricity as they currently pay for juice from conventional generators.

Cuomo’s latest green-power fiasco By Robert Bryce February 2, 2018

Thanks to Bonnie Brady, Executor Director of the Long Island Commercial Fishing Association for passing this along....

Our friends at Statoil are announcing their survey boat schedule below, and I found the FUN FACTS below.

Isn't it interesting that 40+ years ago the Magnuson Act was created to push the foreign fleet off of our fishing grounds and create the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and yet here we are 40+ years later, and they are invading and taking over our grounds once again?

https://www.statoil.com/en/media-centre ... tock-shots

Norway (the country) owns 67% of Statoil.

We are a company built on our Norwegian heritage and pioneering spirit, and have developed the Norwegian continental shelf (NCS) to become one of the world's leading petroleum regions. We are also the world's largest offshore operator, the second-largest gas exporter to Europe, and a world leader in carbon capture storage and carbon efficiency in oil and gas production. While seeking to satisfy growing energy demand we have to minimize the impact on our environment.


We were founded as The Norwegian State Oil Company (Statoil) in 1972, and became listed on the Oslo and New York stock exchanges in June 2001. Statoil merged with Hydro's oil and gas division in October 2007.


The Norwegian State holds 67% of our shares through the Ministry of Petroleum and Energy, US investors hold 9.4%, private Norwegian owners hold 9.0%, UK investors hold 5.2%, and other European investors 7.48%, others 1.6%.

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