Party boat problems in brooklyn

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Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby nickh » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:17 pm

Just saw a piece on channel 4 about people bitching about the boats. What's the issue here?
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Re: Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:08 pm

Nick, one of the captains from the Bay sent this in. I believe this is the story you are talking about...and if you watch it, you will see one of the owners going his business there. This seems to be a news story from a few months ago.

NBC SNOOZE 4: Party Boat Problems in Sheepshead Bay
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Re: Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby nickh » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:13 pm

I didn't see the story three the ads below. Just read it. Seems the two are related.
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Re: Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby Paul H / Emily S » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:02 am

"PARTY BOAT" has taken on a new meaning in the Bay. I see the Freeport fleet doing two half day fishing trips then switch over at night to booze cruising. Which is more profitable ? My guess is it's not even close ...
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Re: Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby EC NEWELLMAN » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:59 pm

Paul, you definitely answered the question on what is more profitable in either having a fishing business...or is that dinner cruise business these days.

I just like to point out an obscure article from a few years back which should have some shaking their heads...

BROOKLYN MAG: Is the Bill Banning Party Boats in Sheepshead Bay Racist?


An excerpt from the article, to wit:

Presumably, no right-thinking person would oppose any activity that sometimes ends with public urination and defecation, but as with most legislation, Cymbrowitz’s bill is not so simple. As far back as last August, when the Assemblyman first promised to ban party boats, critics suggested a surreptitious racist rationale, since most of the patrons who would be affected by the legislation are black.
Joe Lind, captain of the party vessel Golden Sunshine and a 40-year party boat veteran, told the Brooklyn Daily that “a lot of the people that come here are black people—they’re from the Caribbean and inner city,” and noting that the waterfront community lodging complaints is mostly white.


Let me point out that the article was from April 1, 2015 and the question seem to revolve around the issue of vessel owners who have a right to make a living, against those who live right in the neighborhood who complain about their quality of life being negatively impacted due to the lack of/non-existent parking and unbearable traffic issues to garbage, noise and altercations between customers on the boats that take to the streets during the middle of the night.

These problems have not gotten better and in fact as many in social media and on the local news have stated, become that much worse as seen at this point in 2017. Is the answer more security to be hired by those dinner boats, or the eventual relocation of any type of non-fishing operations to locations away from a nearby residential community?

Odds on when looking into the magic 8 ball is that the outcome would tend to favor those in the community who will continue to exert the utmost pressure on whomever is running for Mayor "to do something" about a lingering quality of life issue that so far has not been corrected over the years.

One of the latest articles that goes into more detail:

August 11, 2017 / News / Sheepshead Bay In the dock: Pol takes aim at party boats after seaside brawl

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Re: Party boat problems in brooklyn

Postby nickh » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:38 pm

Police enforcement in itself cannot stop this. Having that amount of people coming in on a weekly basis requires planning and money. I like to compare it to a small time carnival or concert. Overtime needs to be paid by the boat owners and a secure presence needs to be felt ESPECIALLY when high amounts of drugs alcohol and "posturing up" are likely.
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